Is there such a chainsaw as the STIHL 096?
There are rumors that it’s out there, but no evidence. Unlike other “unheard of” chainsaws like the MS 640, there are no pictures of the 096, just a few mentions.
As we share below, Stihl themselves actually say THERE IS a model 096… but are they confused?
After spending hours trying to find out anything about it, we don’t think it exists. We’re happy to be proven wrong, but this is why we came to that conclusion 👇
The Stihl 096 on Google
First, there are very few mentions of the Stihl 096 online.
Search results only bring up three mentions of it:
- My Tractor Forum here
- Arborist Site here
- And the third is an auto-generating question site with no info (answers.com)
- (And now, this article)
The first mention on My Tractor Forum states:
I know a man that has a Stihl .096 G/D model—
Two cylinder, gear reduction, with a compression release on top…
No wonder his employees never want to take it on a job….
That’s all, there’s no follow-up, and nothing else.
Arborist Site has a longer thread.
In it, a few guys want to put together a list of all Stihl chainsaws, and ‘chopperfreak2k1’ states:
thats a helluva plan.
i’m interested because i’ve been looking for info for the Stihl 096, which many people don’t know even existed.
The thread continues with JJuday commenting:
If they exist, and that is a big IF, it would be interesting.
Problem is…..you are the only person I have heard mention such an animal.
Have you found anymore info? Maybe a test saw or a prototype?
To which chopperfreak2k1 replies:
i have found only 2 mentions of it on the web.
one is some site where they are talkin saws and a guy chimes in with- a buddy of mine has an 096 g/d. the other mention is one of those ask a question site and the asker asks what is a Stihl 096.
my dad told me 20-25 years ago that it was the biggest saw Stihl ever made. he recently told me the saw was discontinued in the 70’s.
thats all i know and i have searched pretty extensively, so maybe it didn’t ever exist?
Chopperfreak is referencing those other 2 online mentions we listed above. He adds that his dad told him about it 30 – 35 years ago.
He never found any other evidence and is losing faith that it’s real (and we dare say he’s lost all faith by now).
There was a 4th mention of the 096 from a guy (Claudiu) commenting on our Stihl 090 article. That was our first hearing of it.
He said in the comments:
Why do you say 090 was the largest (Stihl) chainsaw ever produced?
The actually largest (single-person operated) one was Stihl 096.
I read about it quite some years ago and, unfortunately, I cannot find that article any longer, so I’ll write from my memory: it said that only an order of magnitude of 100 pcs were manufactured, then it was discontinued because it caused back injuries to the operator, that heavy it was.
I had the opportunity to hold one in my own hands and it was, indeed, a monster. Fully equipped it weighted >20kg (45lbs). This was in a flee market-like place and I’m still crying and cursing myself for not buying it at that time … but I looked it up and read about it only some time after that day.
So, I don’t deny that the 090 was the most popular big(gest) chainsaw, but it was definitely NOT the absolute biggest: 096 was!
We hope he’s correct, but he’s the only first-person account of someone seeing a STIHL 096.
STIHL 096 on Facebook
Out of the many large STIHL groups on Facebook, there are only a few mentions of “the 096”:
- Stihl Chainsaw Fans (101,000 members) – 3 or 4 mentions
- Stihl Owners (17,000 members) – ZERO mentions
- Stihl 2.0 (15,000 members) – ZERO mentions
- Stihl Owners Australia (9,000 members) – ZERO mentions
- Stihl Contra, Lightning, 070, 090, 1106 and 1109 Chainsaw Group (3.5K members) – ZERO mentions
Out of those 3 mentions of a model 096 mentions, all but one are only a mention.
For example, people have asked questions like these:
- What’s the biggest saw Stihl makes? Just curious and any pics?
- What’s a few stihl saws that are considered hard to find
- Anyone know which model Stihl was the biggest baddest b*****d of all time?
Someone will answer, “The 096,” or “I have heard rumors of 096,” or something similar.
The only extensive conversation on Facebook about this supposed 096 is this one:
This guy “gripped” an 096, but he isn’t even confident it was an 096. It could have been a STIHL 090 G.
There’s no indication online that “Tripp’s Hardware in Bandera” (Texas) has an 096, but Tripp’s Tire Stihl Dealer does exist, so perhaps someone in that area could check it out.
There’s nothing more about the 096 on Facebook.
Interestingly, threads about the 096 are often intertwined or surrounded with mentions of the Stihl 090 “10 cube.”
More about that in a minute.
Evidence for the 096 elsewhere
Besides a few mentions on Facebook and those three results on Google, there is nothing else about an 096 chainsaw.
We searched YouTube extensively and couldn’t find a mention of it.
There’s nothing on Instagram, Reddit, Stihl’s websites, or other chainsaw forums and groups.
We also tried searching sites in Germany and other European countries, but couldn’t find anything.
Overall, there are extremely few mentions of the 096 online. You can count them on two hands.
That’s why we think the Stihl 096 is a true unicorn – it doesn’t exist.
However, it could be the “090 10 cube” because the story behind the two saws sounds the same.
Stihl 090 10 Cube
This is a post from the Stihl Chainsaw Fans FB group.
Here is a thread from the post.
In all the posts that mention the 096, you’ll also find mention of the “10 cube” 090.
This is said to be a more powerful 090.
The stock 090 is 137 cc, while the 10 cube is said to be 159 cc (or sometimes listed as 164 cc).
Comments on the 090 10 cube:
- “People agree that there were very few of these saws ever made. Like 100 or less.”
- “Rare as hen’s teeth.”
- “The Stihl factory did produce a small number of them to be sent to Australia and USA.”
- “Twelve 10 cubes were made, and 6 came to Australia. They had 6 bolt heads and base, stronger cases, decomp in a different place – I have only seen pictures not the real thing.”
And this longer comment:
From what I gather Andreas Stihl got into go-cart racing. He had a motor built for the cart that was 10 cu.in.
The cylinder was almost a direct mount to the 090. So guys got the cylinders that were made for the cart and mounted them to their saws for racing.
The 10 cube 090 was never produced from the factory.
This shows that the 090 10 cube (sometimes called the 090 G 10 Cube, with G meaning gear drive) and the mythical 096 are talked about similarly.
The big difference between the two is that there are hundreds of mentions and images of the 090 10 cube but fewer than 10 mentions of the 096 and zero images.
The 096 Unicorn
We think the 096 is actually the 090 10 cube.
A few people likely gave the 10 cube the new name 096 somewhere along the way, and that’s where this all came from.
The 096 is a true unicorn; there’s no real evidence it exists, and it probably doesn’t.
We’re always ready to be proven wrong, though – let us know in the comment section below.
Update: The 096 Exists?
Since publishing this article, we have received several emails from guys claiming they have evidence of the 096.
The first was from Claudiu. He emailed Stihl customer service and got a reply from them.
Claudio sent:
Dear Stihl, I am a customer, user and fan of your products, mainly chainsaws.
Some years ago (~10 or more?) I found in a flea market a Stihl 096. I touched it and held it, but didn’t buy it. Then I read an article about it being the biggest Stihl chainsaw ever built, which was a limited edition, discontinued because of the difficulty to use by one single operator.
Unfortunately, now I cannot find any information on this on the Internet, hence I’m coming directly to the source, to you, with my research.
And here is my request, if you would be so kind to fulfill it: I’m sure that in your archives there is evidence of this model so, my kind request is to send me some pictures (even taken with a smartphone) of: – the chainsaw itself, if you have one in your museum or if you have pictures of it from the time it was for sale; – any document about it (e.g.: a datasheet, specs, description, marketing…).
Thanks in advance and all the best!
And Stihl replied to him (emphasis mine):
Thank you for contacting the STIHL customer service.
Regarding your inquiry, we would like to inform you that this is a Historic model and we no longer produce parts for it, nor do we have in our database any schematics or User Manuals for it.
We would like to inform you that the most powerful Chainsaw ever produced by STIHL is the STIHL MS 881 which is still currently being sold.
We regret not being able to provide the information you requested.
With kind regards
Your STIHL customer service
In the email, Stihl confirmed that the 096 existed but couldn’t provide any images or documents.
Then we got a message from Andy, who shared a Facebook Marketplace listing (above) of what could be a Stihl 096 AV Super – OR is an 056 Super AVEQ?
Here’s a close-up of it.
The image is not clear, but it looks like is says 096 AV Super with Electronic Quickstop.
The Stihl 041 was the first saw with Electronic Ignition in 1968, which would date the 096 after that.
And usually, if there’s a Super version, there’s also a non-Super version.
But we think it’s just an 056… it looks identical, and this is a legit 056 version.
What do you think?
When Andy emailed, he said:
I just read your article on the stihl 096 and am happy to report that it’s a very real beast and the attached picture is the proof.
I came across this ad last winter. Apparently, [the seller’s] dad had a hoard of saws and she was trying to get rid of them. She was asking a flat rate for each saw and to the left you can see the “096 AV super”. I obviously tried to buy it but somebody got to it right before I did.
Even though I missed out on it I still reached out and emailed Stihl (for the same reasons you wrote the article, the internet came up with nothing) because I wanted to know more.
Funny enough, Stihl couldn’t tell me anything aside from the fact it was a vintage saw, but nothing was coming up on their end as far as parts interchangeability, or what it really even was. If I remember right they told me my best bet would be to find an old dealer and start picking the old guy’s brains about it.
Anyway, this might be the only real picture of one that removes any doubt that they did / do in fact exist, and somewhere in NE Ohio this one is floating around.
Hope you found this interesting!
Thanks to Claudiu and Andy for their help.
Despite Stihl’s assurance that the 096 is a genuine chainsaw model, we don’t think it is. But again, happy to be proven wrong!
Check out this other Stihl conspiracy/mystery/rumor: is the 070 still being made in Germany?
Back in 1980 at the factory school in Va Beach Ben Crago an instructor there showed us pictures of the go cart engine it was big and based off the 1106 series.
That’s an 056 in that photo
That’s an 056 in the photo. I have one in my garage and went outside and looked at it next to the picture and it’s identical in every way that you can see in the photo. Even a faded nameplate that you have to squint to read that could look like 096 if you wanted it to say that. I believe my saw is a late 70’s or early 80’s saw.
If you want to find an 096 I would suggest doing some investigation that goes farther than the internet. Perhaps call the hardware store in Texas and ask few questions? Try to contact the people who claim to have seen or heard of this saw and interview them? Believe it or not, not everything in the world can be found on the internet.
Hey brother, yes that’s the conclusion we’ve come to too. Definitely an 056.
I don’t believe in the 096 anymore, despite the couple of vaguely promising things Stihl have said ????
Test comment 🙂
I owned one in the early 1980’s. It was produced at the request of a union representing local West Coast BC loggers. It took many years from the early 1970’s till production in 1979 I believe…where Stihl-Canada brought them over in limited quantities. The first year maybe 14-15 units…ultimately only <100 units were produced.
I bought mine as a saw 'kit'….it came with a 36" bar and .404 chain….but I only used it with an Alaskan mill for rough-cut lumber for a family logging business.
Stihl resisted pressure from other interests mostly in the US to produce and distribute successive runs…be ayse they were too costly. I believe I paid about $1600.00CDN at that time – a phenomenal sum even for a business.
It was a 164cc head….with a Tillotson carb(unknown model#)….and weighed about 45 pounds…..far too heavy for falling or anything on foot!!